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First and the foremost I would like to thank you for your efforts in writing this article. Second, sorry for writing in English. I saw this discussion by accident and I liked the article overall; here are my two cents:
*# I like to see a list of primary sources for life of Ahmad b. Hanbal and analysis of them. For example, [http://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/encyclopaedia-of-islam-3/ahmad-b-hanbal-COM_23414 Encyclopaedia of Islam, THREE, has some analysis on this].
*# I know that some scholars criticize him about some of the ahadith in his musnad. It will be good if you include some criticism. Overall, I think the article is overly positive about him.
*# I believe the section with title "فضله وثناء الناس عليه" is not appropirate for a wiki article and the exact quotes should be moved to wikiquote and the section should be replaced with an analytical text about the perception of hadith scholars about him rather than raw quotations. Having too many quotes ([[:en:Wikipedia:Overquoting]]) easily results in violation of [[:en:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]].
*# Some of the sources used in this article do not meet the requirements of [[:en:Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (history)]]. For example, I am well aware that [[ابن الجوزي]] was a great guy, but his book is really too old to use in a featured article.
*# The following article is a fantastic article that I really like to see an analysis of its main theses in this article:
:* Melchert, Christopher (1 January 1997). "[http://www.jstor.org/stable/4057347 The Adversaries of Aḥmad Ibn ḥanbal]". Arabica '''44''' (2): 234–253.
Regards, [[مستخدم:طاها|طاها]] ([[نقاش المستخدم:طاها|نقاش]]) 20:17، 27 نوفمبر 2013 (ت ع م)
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:Thank you for your comment brother Taha. I don't know what do you mean by primary sources, for all sources I have used are good and reliable. I didnt find any criticism against imam Ahmad's hadith, if you found any examples I will be glad to add them to this article. It is true that the article is overly positive about Imam Ahmad but that's only because this is all I have found in my resources. Thanks again.--<span style=" font-size: 20px; text-shadow: grey 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><font color="#996515">[[مستخدم:السيف ذو الوشاح|'''الـسّـيْـف''']]</font><sup>[[نقاش المستخدم:السيف ذو الوشاح|''راسلني'']]</sup></span> 12:29، 28 نوفمبر 2013 (ت ع م)
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Thank you for your comment brother Taha. I don't know what do you mean by primary sources, for all sources I have used are good and reliable. I didnt find any criticism against imam Ahmad's hadith, if you found any examples I will be glad to add them to this article. It is true that the article is overly positive about Imam Ahmad but that's only because this is all I have found in my resources. Thanks again.--<span style=" font-size: 20px; text-shadow: grey 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><font color="#996515">[[مستخدم:السيف ذو الوشاح|'''الـسّـيْـف''']]</font><sup>[[نقاش المستخدم:السيف ذو الوشاح|''راسلني'']]</sup></span> 12:29، 28 نوفمبر 2013 (ت ع م)
::Thank you for your response brother Sayf.
::# By primary source, loosely speaking, the people who have witnessed Ahmad and written about him. Analysis of these sources important. Encyclopedia of Islam has a paragraph like this. Or, consider the section "Sources for Muhammad's life" in [[:en:Muhammad]] (pbuh).
::# In [[:en:Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal]] the authors has written that ''"Certain Hanbali scholars, such as Abu'l-Faraj ibn al-Jawzi claimed that the Musnad contains hadiths that are fabricated by interpolation."'' I have not checked this claim by myself, but given ahadith like "قسيم الجنة والنار" I am pretty sure that some scholars will have doubts about the Musnad.
::# I still believe that, based on [[:en:Wikipedia:Overquoting]], many of the quotes should be moved to wikiquote.
::Thank you, [[مستخدم:طاها|طاها]] ([[نقاش المستخدم:طاها|نقاش]]) 18:22، 28 نوفمبر 2013 (ت ع م)
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